@Tutanota sites that implement these can go fuck themselves. I'm not that desperate to be online.

@Tutanota also noone has ever had less than two working hands right

@Tutanota Desperate for personal data.

@Tutanota and that's in the age, when completely private, GDPR-compliant, unintrusive compute-based captchas like https://privatecaptcha.com/ are more than enough. 😠

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I have to buy a camera now?

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If it ever does that to me, one pair of steel medieval gauntlets coming up....

@Tutanota

you know how people used to Xerox their butts by sitting on the machine…

@Tutanota Also if the strong camera-light is on, it is possible to extract fingerprints from the image afaik.

@Tutanota it's all cool. What could go wrong with getting all the hand prints from people, centrally process it, train some ai models with all of it...

They already have fingerprints, face, likely iris...

Oh and all the personal data from everyone, their emails, their financials, everything they watch, everything they visit in every page online...

We are living in the best timeline!

@Tutanota And next time: a porn site using Google Ads tracker wants you to drop your pants…

Thank you for the valuable insight on your experience with this new verification system. As it is still in development, we have been able to make some changes based on reactions like yours:

Starting in July, CAPTCHA will no longer ask for this. It will now ask for pictures of your feet instead.

@Tutanota the ai is having troubles making hands. Google needs more pics of real hands moving to better train their deepfakes

@Tutanota The more I see google's new features, the more glad I am that I left google earlier

@Tutanota Should we show them a shaking fist?

@Tutanota
will they understand this "gesture" ?

@Tutanota
1) AI can't generate hands very well
2) Steal more training data about hands
3) AI can now generate hands better
4) AI can now bypass your captcha check

What's the goal here?

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That's why we DeGoogled.
As long as we don't use Google, this won't bother us.

@Tutanota Even if it were considered a good idea, which it isn't, how do you ask someone with paralysis or an amputee to use their hands? You can't always prop up the phone. If they don't have hands or can't move them, they'd need to be a contortionist to do it with their feet.

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Is this the new reCAPTCHA check?

@Tutanota show them your middlefinger

everytime everywhere

#climateaction

on

#humanrights

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I think I shall show them my dick instead. If I can remember where I've left it.

@Tutanota
The advancement of artificial intelligence demands more complex defenses against bots, and gesture verification is a technical response to automated fraud, not a deliberate invasion.
Big tech companies aim to balance security and usability: traditional methods fail where AIs can already mimic human behavior. Protecting robust digital ecosystems inevitably requires additional layers of validation. Privacy remains the priority in handling this data.
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@Tutanota I think Google is not to blame entirely but also all the companies who implement this. They don't think.
I just avoid this entirely. If i can't get to a website without letting my pants down i simply look for the next.

And this is not the only issue with this. If they cannot identify your browser, this doesn't work at all, esp. the Cloudflare sh*t.

@Tutanota Lol how about f*ck NO 😁 hahahah geez

@Tutanota "Images from your movements won't be stored" my arse!

Can they guarantee that Cloudflare won't have cached copies somewhere?

So what do Google store? Wire frame animated copies of your hand movements?

There have been successful tests where you can identify a person just from their gait.

I am pretty certain that I read of a system that can recognise individual gamers whilst playing computer games on the basis of how their characters move in each virtual computer game world.

@Tutanota Nice try ...
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/scientists-extract-fingerprints-from-photos-taken-from-up-to-three-meters-away/

@Tutanota i would rather wave 🖕 this &my dick to verify that I'm human.. 😁

@Tutanota robot tests have gone too far long time ago. I realized that once I started using VPN. So many sites want you to solve cloudflare's captcha _twice_ just to open them. Yeah, it's just clicking in the box, but the overall process is slow and takes ~10s. Other websites ask you to solve 5 puzzles or something like that. It's crazy.

@Tutanota then they'll use this as training data for making more convincing deep fakes. Sigh...

@Tutanota this is horrible

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Reasonable response: "haha, I guess I won't use this anymore."

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Okay. Here they are.

@Tutanota I'm scared to wonder what they might want to see next.

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Nope. I'll do without anything google offers before doing this.

Hell, my machine doesn't even have a camera.

@Tutanota google has gotta go